Inktip vs. The Black List – Should I use one, both, or neither?

B. O'Malley

Inktip and Black List: "Admission not guaranteed."

Inktip and Black List: "Admission not guaranteed."Prior to about a decade ago, whether or not to upload your screenplay to an online service like Inktip, or a forum, paid or otherwise, was a decision that no screenwriter had to make. There simply was no point to do so, other than for us to share our work via email or in discussion boards, should we be so bold.

But now, uploading our screenplay to a website is a matter of course. We send PDFs to script contests, to script coverage companies like mine for feedback, to agents and producers directly sometimes, and to companies which promise the potential of exposure and the potential of access — companies like Inktip and The Black List. This new type of web-Hollywood hybrid — the screenplay directory — has become, in essence, the new middle man in the spec script trade; Inktip and Black List are the new gatekeepers, plopped down, perhaps too conveniently, in front of what used to be, and which still are, the old gatekeepers — that is, the first readers at studios, production companies, and agencies.

So what’s a screenwriter to do? Pay the “new gatekeepers” like the Black List and Inktip in hopes of getting her script read by one of the gatekeepers they’re standing in front of? It would seem so, if you’re not paying attention to the real world — the world beyond your mouse and screen.

Is getting your screenplay out onto the web a bad thing? Not necessarily. From where I sit, there is some utility to be gleaned in doing so, but that utility is limited, and it pales in comparison to the method I can whole-heartedly recommend, which I’ll describe towards the end of this article.

But first, I’ll share some tips on keeping your ideas safe and your intellectual property protected when sending your screenplay out into the wild west of the internet or to any script directory or service that promises the potential of exposure.

Written just one script ever? Keep it offline

Some screenwriters work on a single screenplay for decades. I don’t recommend it, at all, but it’s more common than you’d think. If you’re one such “magnum opus” screenwriter with but one script to offer the world, or if your ideas don’t flow as quickly or as consistently as they do for other screenwriters, you might want to avoid posting your script in any online forum or directory. Why? Because you’ve simply got too much to lose. This is one of the key reasons I recommend that all screenwriters work on multiple projects, and build a reservoir of screenplays over the years. For one, working on a single script often does little to boost your chops. Most first screenplays are often so fundamentally flawed, they’re only rarely salvageable without considerable effort, even after multiple attempts. Further, they’re usually written around what proves to be a stale or trite concept.

Got a completely mind-blowing concept? Keep it offline

If you believe you’ve got a concept that Hollywood would die for, you might want to keep that one private as well. But make sure it’s not just you who thinks it’s a mind-blowing concept. Run it by trusted friends, colleagues, fellow writers, industry friends you have a history with. See if they agree that the concept is amazing. A key way to measure how awesome your concept is is to watch their faces when you tell it to them for the first time. Seriously. If their eyebrows raise, if their jaw drops, if snot blasts out of their nose, you probably have a great concept. If you don’t get any of those physical reactions, chances are, you probably don’t.

Watermark your screenplay

example of final draft watermark

An example of a Final Draft watermark

If you’re still up for sharing your script online via some sort of forum or directory or service, make sure you’re protected. Copyright it and register it with the WGA before you ever click SEND on anything.

And while you’re at it, feel free to take some extra precautions. Like watermarking.

Script readers often hate ’em, and they’re not always super-effective in preventing piracy, but many producers use them consistently, to both track and protect their outgoing screenplays. Watermarks can be as complicated as a fancy, washed-out graphic behind the text of every page, spanning from top to bottom, or as simple as Final Draft does it: just one big block of diagonal text that tells you the title of the script.

In Fadein, just select File > Batch Watermark

In Final Draft 9, just select Document > Watermark and type your watermark. The watermark won’t appear on the script until you print it or save the script as a PDF.

In Movie Magic Screenwriter, select File > Print > Setup (upper left corner) > Watermark ( or Production > Watermark Setup on a Mac).

It’s probably best to not mess with any opacity settings, as the defaults all appear to work just fine.

For each place you send your script, send a slightly different, trackable version

It might sound like a lot of work, but if your script leaks to the public when it shouldn’t, or gets stolen or otherwise purloined, there’s an easy way to see which of the venues you sent it to, or which of the people you sent it to, did the leaking and/or purloining.

It’s a bit hammy, but simply add a unique tracking code somewhere in the text of the title page, near the contact information. For example, if you’re sending the script to the Nicholl and to a festival and to a producer named Larry, print/PDF three different versions of the script: “102N” “304F” and “291L”. In this instance, the first three digits are meaningless, but the N, F, and L will remind you you sent the script to “Nicholl,” “Festival,” and “Larry.”

Or, if that’s too much clutter on your title page, another easy, if not equally hammy way to do it is to simply change a word or two in the body of the script itself. For example, on page 14 you might have a line that reads “Susan takes the gun.” For the Nicholl, change “takes” to “grabs.” For the festival, change “takes” to “seizes.” For Larry, change the “takes” to “pockets.” Make sure you remember, of course, which word is associated with which place you sent the script to.

Then, if the worst-case scenario comes true and your script gets purloined, and you subsequently find your script online in a forum with a different title and a different author taking credit for it, you can zip down to page 14 and look for that changed word. You’ll know immediately which of the three venues you sent your script to was probably responsible for the leak/theft (or negligence which allowed the leak/theft.)

Going public with your script – Where to list it?

WGA logoSo you’re ready to get your script out there. You’ve registered it with the WGA, you’ve copyrighted it, and you’ve watermarked it or otherwise protected it so that you have some sort of recourse should the spec hit the fan.

Now you need a place to send it to. And the way I see it, if you’re looking to put your script online for the purposes of gaining exposure or access, or at least the potential thereof, you’ve got basically two choices, neither which I recommend with, like I mentioned, a whole heart: Inktip and The Black List.

InkTip (AKA Pay us $60 for 4 months and maybe a producer will find your script in our directory and contact you)

Is it just me, or are these guys a bit paranoid?

After 16 years being in business reading scripts, and three requests to join InkTip, I’ve never been approved as a Producer on Inktip, able to browse and search for new projects that I might want to buy or option. This, despite my credentials and despite my long history of working with screenwriters. And left without an explanation from Inktip, I can only assume the worst: the Inktipsies are worried that because I’m not just a producer, but I’m a producer that also runs a script consulting business, that I’ll go in and poach their users, or somehow lure them away from Inktip with my natural good looks (?)

Getting rejected from Inktip as a Producer has been a frightfully disappointing yet hilarious series of foibles, which usually plays out like this:

Stay Paranoid and Trust No One1) I sign up on Inktip, fully disclosing my real name and information, and the fact that I run a script coverage company, (in addition to my IMDB and credentials as a produced, distributed, viable independent feature film writer, director, and producer).

2) I’m contacted by someone at Inktip who says “Hey there, how are you?” and “vets” me, I can only imagine. Cool. I’m all about it. Check me out on IMDB. Talk to who you need to talk to. Confirm that I’m a real life working independent film producer. (And the Inktip guys who vet me? Always nice. Always polite. The most recent time I was rejected, I was asked to provide references that would vouch for my character, which I did promptly, including two long-time Inktip producers.)

3) Crickets. That is, I mysteriously receive no invite and no follow up emails and my account is deleted.

So if you’re thinking of listing a script on Inktip, in the hopes of attracting some sort of producer or interest in your work, all I can say is be careful. Do your homework and talk to people that have used it, and don’t rely on Inktip to sell you on the details. Talk to third parties.

Without access as a Producer to Inktip, I can only, like the rest of us, read the mixed reviews and discussions out there in the webby-sphere. That, and trust my producer friends, who are able to use the site from the “Producer” side, when they say that there’s a lot of, well, junk on Inktip to filter through, which doesn’t always make it a pleasant experience. To wit: Only one of my Producer friends has ever optioned a script off of Inktip, in the hopes that the concept could be tweaked to fit my Producer friend’s slate. Ultimately, the writer worked half-heartedly on the project and my Producer friend had to let him go and dump the project.

The Black List (AKA Pay us $25/month and your script, if it’s good enough, might get seen by the right people) 

blog_inktip-blacklist-fuckyoupaymeI never used the Black List as a screenwriter, but I can say two good things about them:

1) The guy who runs the shop responds very, very quickly whenever someone doubts the company or criticizes it on Reddit and other forums.

2) The site has gotten a lot of press, so I’m forced to assume there’s some degree of truth behind their claim that real A-list people are finding material on it. After all, the press wouldn’t shit us.

So take a chance on Inktip? Or take a chance on The Black List?

It’s pretty disappointing as a peer working the screenwriting services industry to be continually refused admittance into Inktip as a Producer just because I also run a script consulting business. My thought is: if I wanted to “poach” Inktip’s users (e.g. contact all the screenwriters on Inktip and say “Hey! Come buy script consulting from me!”), quite simply, two things would happen:

1) Any screenwriter with half a brain would say “Buzz off, jerk! I didn’t pay $60 to Inktip to have some third party business solicit me.”

and 2) Inktip would spot my transgression immediately and boot me.

After having giving them full disclosure up front on the multiple occasions over the years I respectfully requested access, it boggles my admittedly small mind that it hasn’t ever occurred to Inktip that if I was truly interested, not in accessing Inktip as an indie producer in search of material for my companies, Brooklyn Reptyle and The Double Aught Film Concern, but in poaching their users for my script notes business, it would make infinitely more sense for me to use a false name, or borrow a name from IMDB in order to gain access, or at the very least not tell them that I run a script consulting business.. For Christ’s sake, people! Eat a pot brownie or something. Chill. The world isn’t coming to get you, Barbara.

I can only conclude that, while I assume Inktip must be a great alternative for some writers out there (and for some producers), Inktip must be desperately afraid of losing business somehow. And any business that afraid of losing business, or that paranoid, in my opinion, is probably not something I’m comfortable throwing money at.

So if I had to… and I mean gun-to-the-head-had-to, choose between Inktip and The Black List, I’d pinch my nose and take my chances with The Black List, as Inktip seems to be operating from a place of pure, unmitigated terror when it comes to letting independent producers who happen to run script analysis companies into their site. And terror, my friends, is not sexy. 

But ultimately, if I’m honest, I truly can’t really recommend either of these companies, nor any other company that offers the potential of getting your script read and exposed in exchange for cash.

Selling services like script notes and feedback and helping writers, yes. Even script contests, yes. But selling the potential of access and exposure, no.  

Why? Because…

The best way to make it as a screenwriter is still FREE

It’s a fine line between getting your material seen and protecting your intellectual property, now more than ever. Before the internet, you’d have to manually retype a printed script, or steal a floppy disk, to pirate someone’s screenplay. Now we’ve got all these new channels that make submitting your script to the film industry easier than ever, but due to that same ease, everybody is doing it, making it way harder than ever before to break in.

If you’re serious about making it, sure, you need to get your material read. Sure you need to get people excited about your scripts.

But remember, there’s a whole world out there that’s not the internet.

That is, the key to getting seen, to getting your material read, might actually lie, not in the ease and convenience of submitting your script to Inktip or Black List or any other service, but…

… with good old-fashioned persistence and face time.

What the online services promising to hook you up with Hollywood access are selling basically comes down to one thing: convenience. They’re betting on you not wanting to put too much effort into getting read. They’re betting on you preferring to type in a credit card over driving to LA and hoofing it on a film or two so you can meet people and get your script onto desks. They’re betting on you being so convinced that the only way to make it in the film industry is to upload that PDF and pray you get a good grade.

The truth is, there are still many, many different roads to making it as a screenwriter, and as I said at the get-go these new online “gatekeepers” are just another form of middle man, standing between you and what used to be the gatekeepers.

Why do we fall for it? Again, convenience. Ease. The promise of a possible good outcome. And because, I think, we’ve all forgotten what it means to interact with actual human beings in a real physical space. (Thanks internet!)

And now there’s an entire generation of new screenwriters coming up that have no idea that the old analog ways even existed. To many of them, the only way into the industry is through the welcoming doors of the $25/month Black List, the $60 Inktip, or becoming a YouTube star by lighting their farts on fire.

But let me type it loud and clear:

It’s not about paying anybody for access or listing your script on some directory. It’s about hard work. And friends you help and who help you. And continually getting better as a screenwriter.

So save your cash when it comes to buying exposure or access. Save your cash and get out here and get in front of people, in person. Talk to them. Make friends. Build alliances. Do favors. Work on films. Eventually, your material will be read. Even better, your experiences in the real world, as opposed to the virtual world, will make you a stronger screenwriter, boosting your chances even further that your material will be not only read, but liked.

19 Comments on “Inktip vs. The Black List – Should I use one, both, or neither?”

  1. Love it. All true amd very insightful. I am a screenwriter with several under my belt. Persistence and hard work (and good ideas) are what’ll get you a career in the end.

  2. Ink Tip is a TOTAL WASTE of money. Their wannabe ‘producers’ are LA dentists who want to meet young talent. Stay the fuck away from Ink Tip. I know — I wasted money on them.

  3. I have had some success with Inktip having had one of my screenplays sold and produced by Magic Elevator titled: Mobster Kids and renamed for DVD distribution (Special Agent Kids). I have also used Blacklist after receiving good coverage from a coverage company. I had two different readers on Blacklist give me my evaluation and they were complete opposites. One said my strengths were one thing while the other said it was my weakness. Despite my high coverage rating I was unable to get to the magic number of 8 on their website to get any producers to read my script or even consider it. My experience with Blacklist was a disappointment and a waste of money. That screenplay has since been opted using the direct method. I’m sure others have had different the opposite experience as well. The way to break into Hollywood is anyway you can.

  4. “Save your cash and get out here and get in front of people, in person. ”

    well i live in England without the financial ability to move to the US, so what are my options?

    1. Get involved in the UK film industry! The UK is no slouch when it comes to producing films. The key is: get in front of people. Meet people. Make friends. There’s no other way, in my opinion.

  5. Thank you for sharing. It is a lot to consider. I have only one script. It is based on one of my novels. But I fear publishing the novel before my script is accepted. Do you think it would matter to launch the book or wait. (It is a Family Dramatic Musical ) The actual lyrics are not shown in the script, but are included in the novel. I’ve worked on this project for many years.
    I did register the script with Is that a mistake? Would love to hear from you. Thanks

    1. Hi Taj – I wouldn’t worry about publishing the novel prior to submitting the script to contests. Just make sure you pick the right contests. The only contests worth anything, in my opinion, are Nicholl and Page.

  6. I’m coming to this conclusion. However, no one will accept ‘unsolicited scripts’ in Hollywood. I am considering a one on one coverage / workshop in person in Hollywood at this point. Contests are heavily biased potlucks, from what I have seen.

    Trouble I’m having, is where do I knock on doors and get the face time?

    1. Hey Mark – the best way to get face time with someone is for them to know you. The next best way is to get some heat on your script via word of mouth at agencies/companies, or one of the legitimate script contests (Page or Nicholl). Short of any of that, you’re pretty much rolling the dice and/or spinning your wheels. Sorry if that sounds condescending or depressing. I say it with sincerity.

  7. As an aspiring screenwriter that lives in neither the UK or LA (US-expat living in Dublin, Ireland if you must know) I wonder if there’s any point in NOT trying these services, other than losing money…?

    I can’t move to LA or London either – family – so that’s just not realistic for me.

    Any thoughts? Is it really just throwing away money?

    1. Sorry Chris, I can’t really recommend either of these services with a straight face. One conflates their notoriety with a completely different product they’re selling and the other is an opaque, archaic E-lister database run by paranoid people. My $0.02: You’re better off spending your cash on Blu-Rays.

  8. I decided to give InkTip a try. Second week, one of their so-called producers listed a request looking for scripts written in “Chinese.” I’ve written for the Asian market before, and know enough to understand there is no such language called “Chinese.” There is Mandarin and Cantonese, and Taiwanese, etc. etc. but no ‘Chinese’, So I contacted Inktip to inform them that I thought this was a bogus listing. They emailed me back and said they checked with the listing producer, and they had made a mistake (but never corrected it). Surprisingly, my auto-renew was cancelled, my account cancelled, and I no longer received the InkTip Newsletter. My conclusion is that InkTip is a complete scam! They make up producers and listings. They are liars, and cheats, who promise to send you 6 to 8 listings a week, but probably make most of them up themselves – and the ones that aren’t are for student films. I replied too another looking for a sci-fi with a budget of 5 to 10 mil. Received and email back from the supposed production company saying they loved the script, wanted to make it, etc. – but could only pay $250 for the script, and only after they could find financing. Those are not leads. That is a complete scam!

  9. The most difficult thing is trying to be a screenwriter when you can’t get face time. I live in Dallas, where it seems that the only opportunity to get my scripts in front of producers is through something like Inktip or the myriad of screenwriting competitions which, for the most part, aren’t recommended either. I’ve paid for coverages, for nothing I guess. I guess I have to stick to DIY out here.

  10. It used to be that Producers pay to see work, not the struggling screenwriter! Aren’t these sites just playing to the desperate fear of writers of never being seen? Making money doing nothing. I say they get paid when we get paid, like any agent. When a “rich producer” pays a screenwriter for their script found on one of these Sites, then the Site gets their “finder’s fee” and not before.

  11. Tried InkTip. The requests are so specific. “Looking for a script about a boy who discovers something in his back yard (must be an Asian boy living in Europe).” Even if you actually have something that matches that, good luck selling it.

    InkTip is the equivalent of taking money out of your pocket, dipping it in gasoline, and torching it.

    The BlackList works… but only if you are an established writer. Otherwise, you will get a great review and a bad review… then, a note saying sorry that you got a bad review… but for ½ the going rate, you can get another review.

    BlackList is the equivalent of taking money out of your pocket, going to a bunch of street corner punks, and saying “You can have this money if you kick the living shite out of me…”

  12. Helpful review but….the closing with the advice that the best way “Just Move To LA And Start Schmoozing” may be right, but for so many writers (myself included) not practical.

    So, here’s some alternative advice for the 7 billion people on the planet can’t move to LA, straight from Mark Duplass, an outsider that with his brother Jay truly made it big.

    Write your amazing spec script that you need Hollywood money to finance, throw it up on InkTip or BlackList and if it gets interest, great. If it doesn’t get bought but you get a solid agent or a job as a writer then maybe you can move to Tinseltown.

    But then write something YOU can shoot in Detroit or Dorset or Dortmund (wherever you are) with some locals financed on your credit card. Make it an absolutely KILLER concept. With a big hook, no special effects, minimal locations, and a lot of performance leaway…ie really concept and event based not driven by Academy acting skills.

    If it gets noticed, you will also get noticed as a writer this way. And for your own films!!

  13. Enjoyed the article, Would you like a copy of my screenplay?
    Kobra, a young strong distance runner is recruited by a mysterious organization to assassinate political figures whose agendas threaten American and global interest. His objective, “Run in, take the shot, run out.”

  14. What a shark pond we live in? My favourite line from this post’s comments: “BlackList is the equivalent of taking money out of your pocket, going to a bunch of street corner punks, and saying “You can have this money if you kick the living shite out of me…”

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